WikiLeaks' reports about Afghanwar enrage Pakistan, and the white house

The truth hurts! what a mess, we should not have ever been there and we should get out now!

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Wikil...=og&sa=N&tab=wn

The truth hurts? Does that mean all secrets are fair game to expose even if they put American military personnel in danger by exposing them? Is that o.k. in your world?

seems like our goverment was doing more to hurt the troops that this leak will? what is the value of this war anyway? why are we there?

It’s fair to say that Wikileaks has produced as many scoops as any major newspaper has produced in their entire lifetime, and in a matter of just four years. The release of the footage from the Apache helicopter attacks on civilians and Reuters journalists, toxic waste dumping by Trafigura, emails on climate change from University of East Anglia, the major Peruvian oil scandal, are just a fraction of what WikiLeaks has been producing and what is yet to come.

oh yeah i forgot

http://www.nocaptionneeded.com/index.php?s=fixate

war is hell and stuff happens. yeah, we want to minimize collateral damage, but, sheesh, this isn't croquet. it bothers me a lot that some non-com with an ego problem made a decision to compromise security. it's not in his pay grade to decide what is in the interests of national security.

and, just why should we not have gotten into afghanistan in the first place?

Right GB. Busy, are you suggesting that we should not have gone after Al Queda in Afghanistan immediately after 9/11? Are you a total pacifist?

What have we achieved in all these years of being there?

Everyone wanted justice after 9/11 and the masses would have bought any lie they were told(and they did) so they could feel the false sense of self gratification of revenge while safely watching the US military vicariously from the couch blowing stuff up and people getting killed between baseball and football season.

did you not read that top ranking CIA operatives admit Al-qaeda Is a complete fabrication? It is documented! Check it out for yourself.

and let me know when you find the connection between Saddam and Al-qaeda

I thought we were talking about Afghanistan, here. Not Iraq. Of course, it's easy to have 20/20 vision about a war after you've made the decision to be in it. When we decided to go after al qaeda in afghanistan, we did not plan to be unsuccessful and to not accomplish anything, although I would argue that plenty has been accomplished.

Your constant sniping about anything the military does is really quite tedious. You really do need to up your thorazine levels.

I thought we were talking about Afghanistan which is one of the places we are allegedly fighting Al-Qaeda

Did you not read that top ranking CIA operatives admit Al-Qaeda Is a complete fabrication? It is documented! Check it out for yourself.

I find your repetitious mentioning of the drug thorazine boring and tedious why don’t you do some research. my commentary is not hindsight I knew these wars were based on lies from the beginning. Sorry you did not see that.

"we did not plan to be unsuccessful and to not accomplish anything"

If this is a true statement then why did we not send in all the recommended troops and assets needed to win in the first place? We knew what we were getting into, it was not a mistake that we are mired down now!
What is benefit of what we are doing in Afghanistan?

Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't UBL in Afghanistan after 9/11? I thought that was the original reason we went in there was to oust the Taliban and get UBL. Those seem like valid reasons then and now in light of OBL planning and orchestrating the murder of 3000 Americans.

I didn't get an answer to my question. My question was:
"Does that mean all secrets are fair game to expose even if they put American military personnel in danger by exposing them?"

The answer I got was:
"seems like our goverment was doing more to hurt the troops that this leak will? what is the value of this war anyway? why are we there?"

Busybody -
I realize that you read quite a bit more about this subject than I do but I get the feeling you have no problem with what this Wikileaks crap has done because it is embarrassing to the United States military. That much I understand.

Now understand this:
I have a son-in-law in the military police based in Afghanistan. If something in these leaks of military secrets puts this man in danger, then what they did was clearly wrong. The people that broadcast these leaks are wrong to do it. It is that simple. My son-in-law is there because he loves his country. He is not there because he is part of some secret war created in the minds of the previous administration. He is not there because he hates Muslims and wants to kill them all. He is not there so rich Americans or some secret shadow government can steal all their oil.

You can do your moral equivelancy dance all around this issue by showing us just how smart you are and how much more you know about our evil country than we do and how stupid you think we all are. You have shown you are quite skilled at that. But if one American soldiers dies because these scumbags decided they have a right to tell the world our military secrets then that is one soldier too many and the blood of that soldier is on the hands of the freakin' jerks that let those secrets out. It is that simple. Every country has secrets and sometimes they need to be kept secret. Some people fail to understand that fact of life.

Oh! BeerBob, you are the man.

I think busybody should be banned for a period of one week for dissin' our troops and leaders.

JM i guesed yo misssed this part as well who is UBL? United Bank Limited ?

Did you not read that top ranking CIA operatives admit Al-Qaeda( which includes osama bin laden) Is a complete fabrication? It is documented! Check it out for yourself.

No. not all of them.

but as I read more about these "secrets" I think much of them are counter intelligence and many of them will be used to go to war with Pakistan and will be twisted by the white house run media cuz no will read 92,000 pages of anything specially with out pictures of naked girls on them.